EP 17: Amanda de Mayo and What's Your Personality Type?

In this episode, we're celebrating Amanda's 30th birthday! Find out what she plans to do to celebrate it. We also have fun trying to guess each other's personality types in three different personality tests: Enneagram, 16 Personalities and DISC. We had so much fun trying to figure out each other's type and we think this would be a fun way to learn about your friends too! Though not all personality tests are accurate, we still had a great time learning about each other. Share your findings on our social media pages! 

Transcript

Hey, y'all welcome to United AF, as friends podcast. A show where we try to unravel the complexities of our multi-cultural friendship and existing as millennials in today's world. Every other week, we'll get together for a deep dive into how our friendship has survived and have some laughs while doing it.

We're your hosts, Amanda Justine and Taylor.

Amanda: [00:00:23] We're back with another episode. Yay. Yay us. So, this week is my birthday episode. Woo. We're going to be talking about though. Not really too much about me. 

Taylor: [00:00:44] Lies. We're going to tell everything about. 

Justine: [00:00:46] Oh my gosh. But we don't have any fun birthday stories of Amanda though. 

Amanda: [00:00:51] No, we don't. 

Justine: [00:00:54] It's just Amanda getting drunk at other people's birthdays.

Taylor: [00:01:00] Then there was that awkward was its Chevy's for Cinco de Mayo that we wanted for your birthday, where it was supposed to be a fun.

 Where we had the punch bowls of Bacardi. Cause I still have one. It was Cinco de Mayo. So, it was you and Cliff, and both of your birthdays are in May. 

Amanda: [00:01:18] Oh, all right then. Wow. If we had their stories, we'll tell them. 

Justine: [00:01:24] But Amanda, do you have a favorite birthday party or memory? Yeah. Oh

Taylor: [00:01:31] I'll start thinking now for mine.

Amanda: [00:01:34] For as long as I can remember. It's not so much birthday story so much as just what I can remember of the fact that, so because my brother and sister were both born in like the colder months, they got to go out to places for their parties and my parties, because I was a May child.

Taylor: [00:01:55] You're a warm child. 

Amanda: [00:01:58] It was always in the backyard always without fail. And I always wanted one at a place. That's it's always stuck in my head, how I never really got to have a childhood birthday party at a place. It was always in the backyard. And it was always handmade gift, goody bags, like in those paper bags, we would decorate the outside of it, put candy and too many toys. We would play like the games outside in the backyard but used to have a clown. Which is interesting. Cause I don't like clowns, but like Lulu Bell, the clown. I remember Lulu Bell because she was freaking awesome, but she wasn't. 

Taylor: [00:02:36] But she hates clowns.

Amanda: [00:02:39] But she wasn't scary. I don't know how to explain it. She w yeah, it wasn't like a scare. She was a fun clown. Like 

Taylor: [00:02:44] She didn't go to clown college. She went to clown like certificate school. That's why she wasn't so scary. 

Amanda: [00:02:49] Maybe. I don't know. So there really wasn't a birthday party that stuck out. It was just, they all blend together. Cause they were all pretty much the same if I'm being honest.

Justine: [00:02:58] So are you excited for your 30th? 

Amanda: [00:03:01] I mean it's kinda just like another number it's another day in the pandemic. You can't really celebrate it. You can't go out anywhere. 

But 

Justine: [00:03:10] you're going to Disney.

Amanda: [00:03:15] Yes. I'm going to Disney. However, it's not because it's not like the normal Disney experience. 

Justine: [00:03:25] But it's to be honest though, like I, yes, it's not the normal Disney experience where it's like super crowded, but honestly, I feel like going there now with less people feel so much more VIP without having to pay for the VIP, experience and stuff is cheaper.

Amanda: [00:03:42] Yeah. I can totally, not yet what it's going to be like, hold on there, to be honest. 

Taylor: [00:03:49] But we're excited for you, but just make sure you take extra cleaning products. Cause its Florida. 

Amanda: [00:03:56] Oh, I stocked up on the mask. We got the hand sanitizer ready.  My sister bought the little seat covers.  But yeah. Back to this episode

Taylor: [00:04:13] The whole thing is your episode. You want to avoid your birthday. You literally episode Amanda's birthday episode and you're like lies. 

Amanda: [00:04:31] Because in this episode, we're talking about personalities 

Justine: [00:04:35] Way to segue to. I love it. I love it. 

Amanda: [00:04:45] I went there.

Taylor: [00:04:49] This was really gonna explain to everybody just how much you hate talking about yourself. 

Amanda: [00:04:57] Ah, so yeah, we, for the personalities, we actually took three different personality tests that are out there. So, we're gonna tell you what they are. We're going to talk about our results and then we're going to like debate. Are they accurate? Are they not accurate? We'll find out. So, the first test was the Oh God, I hope I say this right. Enneagram test. Here's hoping I said that, 

Taylor: [00:05:23] hey, it sounds better than when we said it. 

Justine: [00:05:25] So my life coach called it Enneagram. 

Taylor: [00:05:30] All right. I called it then a gram. So

Justine: [00:05:35] It's like aluminum. 

Taylor: [00:05:39] Ah, aluminum kills me. I don't like that kills me. 

Amanda: [00:05:47] Oh anyway, continue Enneagram. So basically, it's a system of personality, which describes people in terms of nine types each with their own motivations and fears. So, these nine types are divided into three different categories. It's the heart types, which are emotional intelligence, the head types, which are the intellectual intelligence and the body types, which are the instinctual intelligence. So, under heart, the three. What were the types were the type two: giver. Type three: achiever. Type four: individualist. Under head, you have type five, which is the analyst type six, the skeptic and type seventh enthusiast. And then under body you had type eight, the challenger type nine, the peacemaker and type one, the perfectionist. So, result time. Who wants to go first? 

Taylor: [00:06:42] Should we guess? Can we guess what the other one was? 

Justine: [00:06:44] Ooh, I didn't think about that. 

Amanda: [00:06:46] Hold on.  Let me pull up the descriptions of what they were again. You literally, I just named them. That doesn't mean that doesn't give you what they are. 

Taylor: [00:06:56] Let's do Amanda first. This is her. Okay. Jeez. Okay. 

Justine: [00:07:01] I'm thinking, and this is just reading off this one sentences, either the achiever or the loyalist. So, three or six for Amanda. 

Taylor: [00:07:13] Okay. So, I think Amanda is either the three or the six. 

Justine: [00:07:23] So we both think  

Taylor: [00:07:26] Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Because I was going back and forth between if you were the skeptic or the investigator.

Amanda: [00:07:32] No. Okay. Very close. Exactly.

Justine: [00:07:43] Oh, we're so good. 

Taylor: [00:07:45] We know you. 

Amanda: [00:07:46] Okay. So, six in a nutshell, sixes are preoccupied with security, seek safety, and like to be prepared for problems. For the type six, the greatest fear is being unprepared and unable to defend themselves from danger. And then it kinda went into my core traits, which is problem-solver loyal and beautiful, insecure, good friend, pessimist. 

Taylor: [00:08:14] Yes, but there's no problem with being a pessimist because excuse me, I am one, my sister constantly tells me I am. So, there's no problem with being a pessimist.  I just love, I love it. Hello. We just know Amanda. That's great. 

Amanda: [00:08:27] Great. I'm not complicated to figure out. 

Taylor: [00:08:30] Alright, Justine?

Amanda: [00:08:31] Yes. We're going to guess Justine now.  Okay. So, pin them down to two

Taylor: [00:08:41] Okay. So, I have Justine as the number three, the achiever. I also have you as the enthusiast. And I have you as, Oh, sorry. That'd be number seven, three seven.  And one. 

Amanda: [00:09:00] All right. I see. I have one, three and eight.

Justine: [00:09:05] Wow. You guys are way off. I'm a five the investigator. Yes. Yep. No, 

Taylor: [00:09:17] I call Shoal bit on that. Okay.

Amanda: [00:09:24] Explain five. Five is so hard. Lied on your answer. 

Justine: [00:09:31] I do not lie on my answers, man. 

Taylor: [00:09:34] You had to, Oh my God. Amanda and I had two of the same one. You guys just done. The third one was pretty much the same. Lie lies. You're not more comfortable with data than people. 

Justine: [00:09:48] I am much more comfortable with data than people. You kidding me? 

Taylor: [00:09:53] You work in human resource 

Justine: [00:09:55] And I prefer data over people any time, I just have to put up a front to, to be helpful to people. But anyway, so let's see independent, innovative, and inventive. They can also become preoccupied with their thoughts and imaginary constructs. They become detached yet high, strong, and intense. So basic fears being useless, helpless, or incapable, basic desire to be capable and competent. This to me, connects more on a work level because I do not like when I am not being used to my fullest potential. And I do ask a lot of questions and I want to know a lot of things before, we can make decisions. And again, with the podcast, right?  I want to know more about everybody's cultures and what's going on. And I've told you guys before, and even with the love episode, right? It's having those deeper intellectual conversations. Yeah. I asked a lot of questions. I don't.

Amanda: [00:10:59] Yeah, I do too. I feel like when you think about a recount, not the one who made us all friends I feel like that means 

Taylor: [00:11:06] We demand a recount. We literally had a conversation about you. Like I needed to talk to people and no one was mad.

Justine: [00:11:18] That's what it says.  Maybe it's like imposter syndrome or something on the outside. You're all seeing that. But on the inside, this is how my brain works and that is the true me that just hasn't been fully explored. 

Taylor: [00:11:32] So you've never shared that person with us in the 20 something years of you and me's friendship,

Justine: [00:11:38] I would say so, because actually I did write this down because, thinking of taking these tests and thinking about what the descriptions are and how I know that you guys would react to it, I'm like this hasn't, this part of my self has not been fully explored because I haven't had that opportunity. And it’s because I've had colleagues who have helped me be a part of work and discussions and such like that is where this is coming out, so I don't think I had the avenues to really do that until later on.

Taylor: [00:12:15] So do you think that we've been a certain level of comfortable with each other for a long time, but do you think that there was something about your friendship with each one of us that made it not comfortable to have these conversations? 

Justine: [00:12:34] We also didn't really have those deeper conversations. It was always on what's going on. What are you doing? What's new with you? Things like that and yeah. High school college. Yeah. 

Taylor: [00:12:48] When you answer that, sorry. Continue. No, go ahead. No, because I'm saying with those conversations, I think with the, I'm just saying with having those types of conversations and saying, if I'm asking you how you're doing. I do want to know I don't. So, what made you just give a surface answer is what I'm trying to get at. 

Justine: [00:13:08] Because I wasn't comfortable with being vulnerable. Okay. There you go. Yeah. And I guess having to have moved away across, to LA and being alone, it's like shit. Have to reach out to somebody else, or I guess, in New Jersey you feel safe because everybody's there and all of that stuff, or you don't need to showcase that vulnerability. And you still want to seem like the strong person in LA it's fuck, I can't be alone with my feeling. I need to actually share it with somebody. And then also, and I know with my ex it took me years to actually feel comfortable to talk about my feelings, that it still was really hard for me to share it, but I'm much more comfortable with sharing my feelings now. 

Taylor: [00:13:58] Snaps up progress takes a lot of time evolution. There you go. Like the evolution of Amanda that we're talking about, I will get there eventually. I guess I really try to avoid this, and we will not let it happen. Amanda Justine is the one in charge of the recording button. So, remember that.

Justine: [00:14:26] Okay. So, we on to Taylor now. 

Amanda: [00:14:29] Yes. We're going to figure out Taylor. Okay. Taylor, 

Justine: [00:14:34] I'm going to go with I'm going to go with either one or two, maybe even six.

 Amanda: [00:14:42] I'm thinking one.  

Taylor: [00:14:43] So my official type is two. But I scored my official type is two, but I got a 98% for two and four. I don't know what makes one stand out more than the other. Yes. So, twos seek, to love and help the people around them, they intuitively perceive when others need their support and they are, they offer it unconditionally skilled at seeing the good in people. I see that I don't go, I'm not a hundred percent twos will praise others, warmly being always ready with a kind word and a listening ear. They have a knack for making others feel like the most important person in the world. To the outside world, it seems that the two's caregiving is selfless. However, deep down the two would like their efforts to be recognized and appreciated. Twos are capable of manipulating others to get the recognition they think they deserve. And they can quickly flip into anger if they feel undervalued. That's right. Value me.

Amanda: [00:15:45] I could see quite a bit of that, but the part that threw me that totally threw me was the manipulative part. I'm she's not manipulative. 

Justine: [00:15:54] I feel like Taylor's manipulative.  

Taylor: [00:15:57] I can see where I have been. Like it's especially working at the bakery. I can see where I was manipulative, because if I didn't want to do something, I knew what to say to people to make them want to do it. 

Justine: [00:16:10] That is pure evil. 

Amanda: [00:16:13] Damn

Justine: [00:16:17] is a useful skill, not useless. 

Taylor: [00:16:22] Even times where, like I needed a ride home, the one-time Chris gave me a ride who worked with us, I was like, okay, I will help you close if you give me a ride home. And he was like, easy. I was like, great. I had stuff I needed to do anyway. So, it wasn't like you're getting really, but yeah, no, the manipulative and what was it? The sees the good in people. That's the one I'm like, I'm not a hundred percent sure. 

Justine: [00:16:47] Also take a long time to let go of people. And the love that doesn't mean I'm seeing the good in them. That's where I'm like, see, still see the good in them person, because you don't want to like a hundred percent, let them go yet. Or you take a very long time to accept that you need to let them go. 

Taylor: [00:17:05] You're right. You are right about that. I thought mine was very, when I looked at all the descriptions of them, I was like, I can, we've talked about me and my family being lovey-dovey and very caretaking and very, okay. So how are you really feeling type people's lives? Yeah, I could see that one. I'm not this one. This test, I think I agreed with the results. The most. The other ones. I have questions. 

Justine: [00:17:35] I did find it funny that other type fives are Einstein, Bill Gates, Newton, and Edward Scissorhands. And I'm like how Edward. It's funny that I'm in the same personality type as them 

Taylor: [00:17:52] Oh, I want to know who's in my group. Bishop Desmond Tutu, Eleanor Rose. God, hold on. Hold on. Monica Lewinsky was a number two. I'm so done right now, but Mary Kay Ash of Mary Kay cosmetics is also on this point. You are.

Justine: [00:18:16] Mark Zuckerberg is also under mine Emily Dickinson, Stephen Hawking, van Gogh Annie Liebowitz, Leibowitz photographer, Jodie foster. 

Amanda: [00:18:30] Let me see. I've got Mark Twain, Sigmund Freud, J Edgar Hoover. Really? That guy, 

Taylor: [00:18:38] I had Monica Lewinsky. I think you do a little bit better. At least he was the head of the FBI. 

Amanda: [00:18:44] I have Nixon Richard Nixon. Okay. 

Taylor: [00:18:49] Again, he was that take, you got to remember there's two sides to these people. He was a president, but they didn't really like the shape.

Amanda: [00:19:04] Oh, God, I got all shady people. Why? 

Justine: [00:19:07] Because maybe you were shady person. No, I'm just kidding. 

Amanda: [00:19:13] No, I could be, Oh, Frodo Baggins Frodo Baggins! With this one fictional character. Oh yes. Tom Hanks. Yeah. Yes. There you go. She's back on top of y'all. 

Justine: [00:19:36] So you got some good people on your list, Jennifer Anniston. See she's back in the land of America's sweethearts. Amanda you're America's sweetheart. There you are New Jersey.

Amanda: [00:19:58] So the next test we took was the 16 personalities test. So, this test is supposed to help you understand who you are and why you do the things you do. There are five personality aspects when combined to find a person's personality trait. So, the five aspects, our mind, which determines how we interact with our environment, energy, which shows where we direct our mental energy nature, which determines how we make decisions and cope with emotions, tactics, which approach to work planning and decision-making and identity, which is how confident we are in our abilities and decisions. It scores you up and basically, it'll tell you what your personality is. So, for this one, I figured if we're going to do what determine guess, our score for each of the five categories. So, this'll be interesting.

 Justine: [00:20:55] He wants me to stay girl. All right. 

Taylor: [00:20:57] Nominating Amanda, I'm for it, right? 

Amanda: [00:21:00] So mind where do you think I land on that? 

Justine: [00:21:04] Is that introverted? Yeah, that's an introvert extrovert. 

Amanda: [00:21:07] A hundred percent. Yes, I am. 90% introverted. Oh God. Yeah. So, energy, whether I'm intuitive or observant. 

Taylor: [00:21:19] Oh, the observant, I think Amanda is more observant than intuitive. She doesn't think with her gut. She wants to know. 

Justine: [00:21:26] That's very true. I'll go with you, Taylor, on that observant. 

Amanda: [00:21:31] Yeah. Okay. So, 80% observing.

So, for nature it's am I thinking, or am I feeling? 

Justine: [00:21:41] Thinking. 

Taylor: [00:21:42] Definitely thinking, I would say 90% thinking 

Amanda: [00:21:45] 79% thinking. Thank you very much.

So, tactics and my judging or my perspective. Prospecting. I don't know. I said that wrong. 

Justine: [00:21:59] I want to go with, okay. 

Taylor: [00:22:00] You're hunting for gold in the river. You're prospecting. okay. 

Amanda: [00:22:14] Have fun here. Exactly. 

Justine: [00:22:18] I want, I think I'm going to go with judging. 

Taylor: [00:22:22] Yeah, I want to say she was like 60% judging. 

Amanda: [00:22:27] I am 53% judging. Okay. Identity assertive or turbulence. 

Justine: [00:22:36] Oh, I don't think you're that turbulent. You also don't make decisions. 

Taylor: [00:22:49] Yeah. Like I'm feeling like you're not, you don't let your, but Amanda doesn't let her emotions dictate what she's doing. 

Justine: [00:22:58] That's very true. So, sticking to assertive with the assertive. Yeah. 

Amanda: [00:23:03] So I am.  I am 51% turbulence. Yes. So, all of that combined. So, the conclusion was I am, the I S T G T J A, I S T J the logistician. I don't even know. Few personality types are practical and are as practical and dedicated as the logistician. Known, for the reliability and hard work, these people are good at creating and maintaining a secure and stable environment for themselves and their loved ones. Their dedication is invaluable in many areas, including their own personal growth. Yet these people can be easily tripped up in areas where the practical methods approach are more of a liability than an asset, whether it is finding or keeping a partner learning to relax or improvise, reaching dazzling Heights on the career ladder, or managing their workload they need to put in a conscious effort, develop their weaker traits and additional skills. My role was the, I believe the Sentinel.

Taylor: [00:24:10] Ooh, you're the washer on the wall. Sorry. All right. These things fascinate me. I didn't take any psych classes, but these things. So yeah. 

Amanda: [00:24:20] And my strategy is constant improvement. 

Justine: [00:24:24] That applies to your job. 

Taylor: [00:24:26] Yeah. How'd you went back to school, you're working on getting your stuff to be a CPA. Yeah, Amanda, I see it. That makes sense. 

Amanda: [00:24:36] Yeah, I definitely am the type. This one I felt was very applicable. It just because I am very hardworking. I know I am hardworking or maybe a little too hardworking. And when we're doing the five categories, I feel like, yeah, no, this is very much me. And I know you guys for identity. We're like, Oh no, you're assertive. Not, I'm actually not confident at all in my, in any of my abilities. I'm very self-conscious about that. 

Taylor: [00:25:03] Yeah. But when I think turbulent, I think somebody who flies off the handle all the time, you, it takes you a long time to get your, I don't know. I just feel like in the interactions I've had with you, your emotions don't dictate your answers. And that's what I think of as somebody who's more turbulent. 

Justine: [00:25:21] I guess we need the definition of a turbulent. 

Amanda: [00:25:24] Yeah. I guess they use it differently here, maybe. It says turbulent individuals are self-conscious and sensitive to stress. They're likely to experience a wide range of emotions and to be success driven, perfectionistic and eager to improve. Oh, damn. Yeah. That is me. All right. Then these tests are pretty damn accurate. Okay. 

 Okay, so who's next? Going next rock paper scissors, shoot Taylor. Okay. I'm okay with that. 

Taylor: [00:25:59] Am I extroverted or am I introverted? 

Justine: [00:26:02] Extroverted? Yeah. 

Taylor: [00:26:04] 63%. Am I intuitive or am I observant? 

Amanda: [00:26:09] Observant 

Taylor: [00:26:10] 56% intuitive. Nah. 

Justine: [00:26:15] But you want to be a people watcher okay. Let me rephrase that. You want to sit in a Paris cafe and people watch. 

Taylor: [00:26:29] Yes. No. Okay. I want to drop down intuitive. Individuals are very imaginative open-minded and curious. They prefer novelty over stability and focused on hidden meanings and future possibilities. Y'all know, I'm always planning stuff for the future and I'm like, okay, I need to do this and that. And I feel like I'm open-minded and curious and very, yeah. Very open-minded. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Am I thinking or my feeling?

Justine: [00:26:57] I feel like you're, it's a 50, 50 almost. It's like a little bit more towards feeling, but I feel like it's very close to each other, right? Yeah. Same. 

Taylor: [00:27:11] Okay. I'm 68% feeling bad. It wasn't 50 50, but

Amanda: [00:27:27] 18 off. 

Justine: [00:27:29] Which is not a huge number. So, it's, to me it's still fairly close. 

Taylor: [00:27:34] Am I judging or am I prospecting. Am I digging for gold like Amanda?

Justine: [00:27:42] Can you read the definitions for prospecting and judging? 

Taylor: [00:27:46] The judging and prospecting personality types reflects how people plan and deal with the options they have. But this definition, doesn't just concern what individuals write in their day planners. It is much broader. These traits, answer questions like do you prefer spontaneity or certainty? Do you feel more comfortable acting only when all your ducks are aligned neatly in a row or does a certain amount of flexibility or chaos excite you improve motivating. Do you need more choices or fewer? So judging people with the judging personality trait feel more comfortable when the course ahead is well-marked.   Prospecting individuals are much more flexible when it comes to dealing with unexpected challenges. 

Justine: [00:28:24] Okay. You're judging. Right? Yeah. Judging. 

Taylor: [00:28:28] That there was like, no. 67%. 

Amanda: [00:28:34] More than me. 

Taylor: [00:28:38] Okay. Am I assertive or am I turbulent? 

Amanda: [00:28:41] Assertive yeah. 

Taylor: [00:28:44] 60% turbulent.

Justine: [00:28:49] What is turbulent again? 

Taylor: [00:28:52] Individuals

are self-conscious and sensitive to stress. They're likely to experience a wide range of emotions. Be and to be success driven, perfectionist and eager to improve. Y'all know I'm sensitive to stress. 

Amanda: [00:29:05] Yeah. You know what I think what throws it off is the self-conscious part.

Taylor: [00:29:10] Yeah. I have moments where I am. Self-conscious I was just really good at hiding it. 

Amanda: [00:29:17] Okay. I'll take your word on that one.

Taylor: [00:29:25] Yeah, Justine and I worked together, but Gina's bakery wasn't real stress. But in my current job, when I am at my limit it's like my brain, my body goes into shutdown for like its normal happy self. And it's okay, we need to figure out what's going on and get all this done. My body's response to mental stress is not good. I've learned that. So, I've taken the steps to remove those stressors from my life.  I am a turbulent protagonist.  E N F J dash T.  Let's see. Few personality types are as inspiring and charismatic as protagonist, their idealism and vision allow protagonists to overcome it. Many challenging obstacles, more often than not brightening the lives of those around them. Protagonist imagination is invaluable in many areas, including their own personal growth. Yet protagonists can be easily tripped up in areas where idealism and altruism are more of a liability than an asset. Whether it's finding or keeping a partner, staying calm under pressure, reaching dazzling heights on the career ladder or making difficult decisions. Protagonists need to put in a conscious effort to develop their weaker traits and additional skills. Yeah, I do put in a conscious effort to improve those skills. Like I don't just be like, ah, no, I can get better later. No, I need to focus on doing it. And then what was my role? My role as the diplomat.

Justine: [00:30:53] I can see that. 

Amanda: [00:30:55] And your strategy is what? 

Social engagement. 

Taylor: [00:31:00] I am boldly sensitive. Those were the social engagement strategy or an interesting group in some ways extroverted and turbulent personality traits, conflicts with each other. Yeah. Extroversion leads to risk tolerance and boldness and turbulence leads to self-doubt and sensitivity. This can mean that social engagers tend to do what comes naturally first. And think about it later in this way, they're almost an exaggeration of their underlying personality traits. This may sound like a bad thing, but it doesn't have to be. What do we think?

Justine: [00:31:32] There's always going to be something a little bit off, but I don't think this, I don't know. Some of it is not on point. Yeah. At least what we see from you.

Taylor: [00:31:47] So which things don't you agree with?  

Amanda: [00:31:49] I do agree with the whole brightening. The lives of those around them. I do. You both do in your own ways. Yeah. I feel like with Taylor, I had to break out of my shell a bit more. Yeah. I don't allow for you to sit here, but that has made that's the benefit really. 

Justine: [00:32:16] Aw, that's so nice.

Taylor: [00:32:23] Alright, Justine let's guess you. Alrighty. I'm excited.

Justine: [00:32:28] So am I extroverted or introverted? 

Taylor: [00:32:32] You've been telling us that we're wrong. So, we have to say, I think you're extroverted, but your results are going to say introverted at 60%. 

Justine: [00:32:40] I am 79% introverted. 

Taylor: [00:32:44] I knew it I still don't believe it, but we're learning more. What we're learning through doing this is that we're learning more about each other. I'm going to take you at your word for this. 

Justine: [00:32:55] Okay. Do you think I'm intuitive or observant? 

Taylor: [00:33:00] I'm going to go with observant. 

Amanda: [00:33:01] I'm also going to go with observant. 

Justine: [00:33:04] I am 54% intuitive. 

Amanda: [00:33:08] Huh really. Okay. 

Taylor: [00:33:14] Okay. Yeah. You're open-minded and curious too. I'll give you that. 

Justine: [00:33:17] Alright. Thinking or feeling. 

Amanda: [00:33:20] Now I'm gonna go with feeling. Yeah. 

Justine: [00:33:25] Why are you going to go with feeling? I have no feelings.

Taylor: [00:33:31] Together. 

Amanda: [00:33:32] I know, right? They usually do. 

Taylor: [00:33:35] You're intuitive. Normally you're a feeling person 

Justine: [00:33:39] I'm 61% thinking. Okay. All right, judge. Am I a judging person? Or am I    prospecting. However, you want to pronounce it. 

Amanda: [00:33:50] Judging 

Justine: [00:33:51] 67% judging. 

Taylor: [00:33:54] Hey, we match. 

Justine: [00:33:56] And then assertive or turbulent 

Amanda: [00:33:59] assertive.

Taylor: [00:34:01] I'll go with turbulent 

Justine: [00:34:03] 82% assertive. 

Taylor: [00:34:06] Wow. You were like super assertive. 

Justine: [00:34:08] Yeah, exactly. So, it's an I N T J dash A 

Taylor: [00:34:18] What does that call you 

Justine: [00:34:20] It's an architect? The role is analyst and the strategy right. Is confident individualism. So, I, N T J armed with powerful intellects and strategic minds. Architects can out maneuver obstacles that seem unbeatable to most. But their strengths when misunderstood can turn into weaknesses and keep them from reaching their full potential. It says thirst for knowledge, mental stimulation. But we have a sarcastic sense of humor. We're not completely boring. Questions, everything, not warm and fuzzy think rationally. And apparently a lot of fictional villains are based on this personality type, too funny. I was like, Whoa. Okay. Romantically, clueless, apparently, and natural confidence can draw people towards them. So, it reminded me, definitely makes sense. It reminded me of your first impression of me Taylor, where you were like, this girl knows what she wants and that's pretty cool.

Taylor: [00:35:26] And then that ties into the that's the whole reason why we're Justine's friends. Because you found us interesting. And we at the same time found you interesting. 

Ah, okay. 

Justine: [00:35:37] I think Amanda just found me annoying. 

Amanda: [00:35:40] No, I just was very confused in the beginning, but I didn't understand why people wanted to talk to her.

Justine: [00:35:50] Alrighty. Yeah, that's me. I think it's funny that you guys got me wrong on both of the personality tests. 

Taylor: [00:35:58] Hey, that's not on us. If you didn't show us your true self, let's be real here. 

Justine: [00:36:04] It's also, so how do you allow somebody or kind of pull their true self out of them. Let them feel comfortable enough to say this is my true self. 

Taylor: [00:36:17] Yes. I'm saying it's, but it's not our fault because we thought we were doing what was right. But you said you weren't in the place yet. So, if someone doesn't have the vocabulary to, translate how they're feeling, what they're feeling, and they don't have that self-confidence yet. You can't blame the people around them for not knowing we try that's the whole part of this is we try with each other and we're learning through shoot through every single episode. We're learning more stuff about it. 

Justine: [00:36:45] Yeah.  I took this a while ago for work. And I got an INTJ. But I don't even think I was questioning a lot and having that thirst for knowledge. I guess my own growth is like, all right, now I do want the knowledge and now I want this. And I want that because, having the entertainment to just veg out isn't is not, it's not satisfying anymore. If that makes sense. Do you feel like you have a fake friend?

Taylor: [00:37:23] You're the only one that went there. I've just, I'm just sitting here questioning what I could have, because I'm an intuitive and a feeler, I'm thinking what I could have done. To make you feel more comfortable and now I'm going back and I'm trying to figure out, not just in my interactions with you, my interactions with other people because I'm such an extroverted out there personality. Am my suffocating, am I too, in your face? And now I'm going to sit back and think, cause like Justine, because we were younger, it would be different. But for Amanda, in our first interactions, I can see where. I could have been too much. Did you ever feel that way? Cause you literally said Taylor forced me to be more extroverted. 

Amanda: [00:38:12] No, it wasn't even, it was more, I want to say meeting you first intimidating. Like when I first met you, I would say a bit intimidating only because I felt like you had such a big presence, like whatever room you walked in, people knew you. And it was just like okay. 

Justine: [00:38:33] Interesting. Okay. Yeah. 

Amanda: [00:38:37] Mind you. This was what. Back. I think the first time I can remember meeting you with that out there. It was high school senior year. So I, by then you had met so many people that I feel like everybody knew you. And usually I didn't get, not get along with, but like people who were very social weren't people that I gravitated towards. Yeah. I went more for the choir. People just like me. Justine was the exception because she again, she came to me, it wasn't like, hi. But with Taylor, I want to say again, I think we talked about it before that. Our relationship totally changed when we realized we were both nerds. 

Taylor: [00:39:25] Yeah, most definitely. But I'm trying to Amanda, once I got past the Amanda that I remembered in middle school, and then we had an actual class together that wasn't gym where I got to hear more of what you said. I was like, okay, this has potential and Amanda did not care. And I think that's a, you were quiet. And if I looking back at my friends there, a lot of them were quiet. Not Justine, but like the people who were in that space. 

Justine: [00:40:04] I wasn't quiet to the people that knew me. 

Amanda: [00:40:07] But that's the thing though. Cause I never knew you.

Justine: [00:40:11] I can tell you my sociology class. I never spoke. So, I can tell you that. 

Taylor: [00:40:17] But yeah, no, you were quiet, and you sat there, but Amanda never missed anything. And that was something that was cool for me. And then I was like, I want her to talk. I just went off. When you went off. When I did go on in that class, I was like, yes, we really need to talk to her.

Amanda: [00:40:43] When I have an opinion, I tend to express it. 

Taylor: [00:40:46] Yeah. Now that's making me rethink that whole turbulent thing. When you have an opinion, it comes out, there's no filter. 

Amanda: [00:40:54] So the thing is. High school me was a totally different person. High school me was a bit of a bitch. Let's be honest here. 

Justine: [00:41:04] I think we can all, I know for me, I feel like I'm completely different from high school, me as well. 

Amanda: [00:41:09] So I feel like overall, I feel like there was there's certain things that kind of carried over, the overthinking still carried over for sure. But in high school, I was also very defensive.  I took things the wrong way and I took things personally, even though it wasn't meant to be personally. And so, when I was in high school, when you guys all like first met me, I think Taylor got a different version of me than Justine got. because I think Justine, we were in choir together in choir was like a real calm, just let's all just sing and be cool and just have fun. And then Taylor, you had me in U S government and politics and that. There was no calmness there.

Taylor: [00:41:52] I just want to say that I had concert choir with the senior year. 

Amanda: [00:41:55] Oh shit. That's right. You did

Justine: [00:42:02] Yeah, exactly.

Amanda: [00:42:11] We're moving on to the next test. All right, the next one was the disc personality test. This one was so frigging basic, I want to have three tests, so I just picked one. But this one, it's a way to describe people's emotions and behavior. And it's really an assessment tool that people use at the workplace to, to help improve like teamwork and communications and stuff. It's four basic personality types there's drive, which describes a behavior that is assertive and results oriented influence, which describes behavior that is engaging and enthusiastic. There is support, which describes behavior that is helpful and caring towards others and clarity, which describes behavior that is precise and detail oriented. Now, before we guess where anyone that I just want the most out. So, when you get your score for this, it puts it in a little actual circle, right? And I'm looking at my circle. Yeah. That little go but when I saw mine, you know what, I'm going to show you guys mine and why it threw me a little bit just because the way, shows and we'll put it. If you show it to us, we get no guessing. No, after you guess, I'm going to show it to you guys. Cause I want just because it's like really. Does the size that everything just, it just really a little insulting, but yes. you guys get it and then we're going to put it on social media so people can see what the hell I'm talking about.

Justine: [00:44:09] yeah. Okay. I think. Clarity drive support and influence. That's the order for you. Okay. So, clarity is your main one. Next comes drive, then smallish support, and then can maybe be same as influence. So, your big quadrants are clarity and drive. 

Taylor: [00:44:39] I agree. I think Amanda's clarity and drive and then support and then influence. Cause you don't want to be in charge of other people. Not in charge of you don't want to collaborate with other people, 

Justine: [00:44:54] but she would help them if they need help, even though she'd be annoyed at training them. 

Taylor: [00:44:59] That's why I say support before influence. Yeah.

Amanda: [00:45:06] Okay, so the results, no.

Taylor: [00:45:15] It's going to be like influences at the top of Amanda's thing. And I'm going to be really confused. Okay. Hold on. Let me, Oh, that's us. Yes, that is you. This personality

Amanda: [00:45:40] I was really insulted when I saw this thing, because look, my clarity is ginormous. Yes. Then you have for support then influence, then drive screenshot. This is why as hell. Yeah. That's why I'm just like, what the fuck is this? 

Justine: [00:46:05] I mean that, okay. 

Taylor: [00:46:09] I would not have associated that with you at all. I drive much more here. Yo your drive is ridiculous. 

Justine: [00:46:17] You need to retake that.

Amanda: [00:46:18] I don't know. I answered the same way that I did for, cause I felt like some of these questions are the same. And so, I answered the same way. I don't know what happened here. 

Taylor: [00:46:29] They, that just, that, that is a tiny amount of drive though. 

Amanda: [00:46:34] I know, that's again, why I was insulted 

Taylor: [00:46:37] That was like a 16th of your circle maybe a 32nd. 

Justine: [00:46:45] So if we really break this down, it says takes charge and just gets things done. Makes decisions. That's where it is. Yeah. And then, most of her positions were given to her and then she gets things done that way. It's it doesn't really say about it. It's something about taking initiative here. So, if you're ambitious and taking initiative, then you would be presenting, new plans or whatever to your managers, but most of the, at least what we're hearing is that, Hey, somebody going on maternity leave, we need your help to do this. And because you're there, you're cleaning up stuff, you're supporting the team. They can see how much of an asset you are. 

Taylor: [00:47:27] What she said 

Amanda: [00:47:29] I wouldn't have thought of, but damn. So, they go that's me. 

Taylor: [00:47:37] So then I guess that, to that I'm saying, I guess the only thing close to that is the only part of that. No, the only part of your drive is the goal-oriented purview. 

Justine: [00:47:54] Like you, you want too yeah, that's it. Yeah. You want to like clean things up and make sure the systems are great. And that is your goal.

Amanda: [00:48:03] Yep. 

Taylor: [00:48:05] But don't go any further, that's it? 

Amanda: [00:48:07] Nope. Don't want to make decisions. 

Taylor: [00:48:11] All right, Justine, let's figure you out. 

Amanda: [00:48:13] So I think Justine is drive. Influence clarity support.

Taylor: [00:48:22] Get out of my head. 

Justine: [00:48:25] Can I just say I wrote the letters down just so I can remember what order you did and it's spelled DICS.

Taylor: [00:48:37] That's exactly where you would go to. 

Justine: [00:48:44] Sorry, I won't add that. But luckily my results don't spell DICS. 

Amanda: [00:48:56] Okay. 

Taylor: [00:48:56] It is start with a D 

Justine: [00:48:58] No, it starts with a C 

Amanda: [00:49:01] Wow. okay. 

Justine: [00:49:02] Clarity chart. Okay. One second. I want to know this now. I love that. Show us your

Amanda: [00:49:17] oh my God. You're so at least it's like almost a full circle. My was all over the place,

Justine: [00:49:27] So yeah. Clarity drive support. Oh, wait. I dunno. Is it clarity, support, drive and influence? 

Taylor: [00:49:36] I think it's clarity support. It looks a little bit bigger. 

Justine: [00:49:39] Yeah. Okay. So, clarity, support, drive and influence.  So, clarity describes behavior that is precise and detail oriented. When people exercise clarity, they work steadily on tasks, requiring focus and accuracy. They take a systematic approach to finish the job. I think that's pretty accurate sometimes I can sometimes, no, just sometimes I'm not as detail oriented as others, but I definitely do take a systematic approach. 

Taylor: [00:50:09] I can see that trying to think. Oh, this is on an order accuracy. Yeah, you will. When we were working at the bakery, you were very much like when I would come with my own ways to do things, Justine would be like, Taylor, stop it. We're going to do it this way. And I was like, but this is so much easier for me. She goes no. We're gonna do the pie boxes this way and you're going to get it afterwards. I was like, okay. But yeah, I can see that. I do see that it's a thing I have to learn how to play well with others. 

Justine: [00:50:42] But I also need to learn that other methods are actually better than the one that you're taught. 

Taylor: [00:50:47] Sometimes. Not always. 

Justine: [00:50:49] Sometimes I agree with that. All right. Your turn Taylor, your pie chart makes a little bit more.

Taylor: [00:50:55] Okay, cool. Yeah. Sorry. I might to get your chart is a. An actual circle that, and it, it makes a little bit more sense towards you, but no, cause you are good with support too. 

Justine: [00:51:09] I'm in HR, I have to be supportive. 

Taylor: [00:51:12] But you said you like data better than people? 

Justine: [00:51:14] I do. Which clarity. Okay. We need to guest Taylor's. 

Amanda: [00:51:19] Okay. Taylor's oh man. Taylor, you're hard. 

Taylor: [00:51:25] My plan all along. 

Justine: [00:51:26] I'm going with support and then clarity and drive. To me it's I could switch it possibly. And then, influence. 

Amanda: [00:51:37] I am going support, influence drive clarity. 

Justine: [00:51:42] Oh yeah, you do engage others. So, you could be influential. You are engaging. I don't think you're enthusiastic, but you can be enthusiastic though. Okay. Can I change my answer? 

Taylor: [00:51:57] It's your world. You can do whatever you want. Okay. 

Justine: [00:52:03] So Amanda, which one did you say again? 

Taylor: [00:52:05] Amanda said S CDI. 

Justine: [00:52:07] I'm putting I before D so S C I D. But you make decisions too, and you take, she's hard. Does she have an even circle and even pie chart? 

Taylor: [00:52:25] No. I think yours is more even than mine is okay. All right. You know what? Just show us. So influences my huge one. Wow. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, it's influence drive. Yeah. Y'all didn't get it. Influenced drive see clarity and support. 

Justine: [00:52:49] You know what? I got yours backwards. In my first guest, I did support clarity drive influence. 

Taylor: [00:52:55] Do I have an influence? Yeah, you did have it backwards.

Amanda: [00:53:02] This one. I feel like just this particular personality test. I feel like that one was just off a bit for everybody in a way. Like we didn't get it at all. Like the other ones we had got a good, we guessed pretty closely. 

Justine: [00:53:16] But the thing is though, this is on work, on the work.

Amanda: [00:53:20] This is working more for the workplace. 

Justine: [00:53:23] I'm sure our work colleagues would be able to guess us better. But because we don't work together, we don't know how, like we were talking about different masks that we wear. So, you have a different mask, at work versus a mask that you wear with your friends. Oh, yeah, no, it's so true. So yeah, maybe we should have had our work colleagues guess. 

Taylor: [00:53:47] But also in taking this one, I had this one down as the least. Yes, I said that the Enneagrams was the most accurate 16 personalities was the second most accurate. And this one was the farthest off because for me for influence, it says your main focus is getting people motivated and working together. I hate working with other people. Give me my task and let me sit in a corner and not talk to anybody else. Cause I can get stuff done if I don't have to worry where on your part, it's like you want to, I'm driven to bringing people together in the working environment. And I don't think I am because I feel that I've learned through all of my jobs that no matter what you do, nobody's happy at the end of the day.

Justine: [00:54:34] Yeah. That's very true. No, that's true.

Taylor: [00:54:36] Okay. We learned something about ourselves. Maybe this is maybe that's I'll do, I'll be a better worker if I do collaborate with other people.

Amanda: [00:54:51] So for shits and giggles, we did Harry Potter. We all took the Pottermore one, I believe. And at least for Taylor and I didn't match at all. So, should we give it descriptions of the houses?  I don't want to make assumptions that everybody knows about Harry Potter.

Taylor: [00:55:10] There are four houses. You got your Gryffindor, your Ravenclaws, your Slytherins and your Hufflepuffs. Yeah, I would describe the four. So what Griffin doors are brave. And like courageous people, noble, such 

Amanda: [00:55:30] Yeah, Gryffindor is bravery, chivalry, helping others, Hufflepuff hard work, patience, loyalty and fair play. Ravenclaw, intelligence, knowledge planning ahead and wit. Slytherin ambition. Cunningness heritage and results resourcefulness. Those are the four houses.  On this Times, one I'm a Ravenclaw. Okay. Yeah. Apparently, it says your personality shows a high degree of worth ethic and friendliness, which are valued among members of Ravenclaw house. I don't know where they got the friendliness from, but 

Taylor: [00:56:15] okay. Yeah. But the obsessive worker, I can definitely see that very intelligent and yeah, I can definitely see it being a Raven Okay. What are yours? 

Justine: [00:56:26] I'm Ravenclaw.

Amanda: [00:56:27] Because of hard work. Yeah. 

Taylor: [00:56:30] Like I said, I think it's the fact that you ver both of you very work ethic minded. People like very, this needs to be done a certain way. We've got to do this so that it's done, and we don't have to worry about it. Let's move on to the next task at hand. But that definition of it, I get it. Okay. So, when it took this, I'm a, Gryffindor not on the thing. I was like, this is a lie. This is a definite lie. What does it say? Your personality shows a high degree of courage and friendliness, which are valued among members of Gryffindor house. I was like okay. 

Justine: [00:57:13] You do show value and friendliness. Courage and friendliness. Oh, sorry. Courage. Why am I not hearing anything right today? I don't know. Definitely. Exactly. Friendly. 

Amanda: [00:57:27] I think 

when it comes to okay, for three of us, we're out in a setting and we had to go speak to a stranger, Taylor probably send you

Justine: [00:57:46] okay. Now I can see her in Gryffindor. Yeah. There you go.  

Amanda: [00:57:52] So with all these lovely personality quizzes we did any of the results make you question what you thought you knew about yourself? 

Justine: [00:58:01] I would say so the first time I took the Enneagram.  I read the description and I really thought about myself and seeing if it does reflect me and I was like, oh yeah, that does reflect me. Or I didn't know that, that was a thing that I did. Until I read, read the description. Cause sometimes it's you need an outsider to tell you yes, you do these things because you're this type of personality. So, I would say some regard. Yeah.  

Taylor: [00:58:29] Yeah. Throughout our conversation here. I've you guys heard me question myself in regards to how my traits factor into our relationships and what I'm doing. Yeah, it made me think about parts of my personality. I never thought I had. And a lot of mine are talking about like leadership and bringing people together. And I never thought of my personality as the person who does that. But I guess in a way I do sometimes. I don't know, like within us, I don't think I'm that person. I think that is Justine is very in her assertive ways and in her you're very much making sure that we're keeping in contact with each other, but in my other friendship groups, when I think back and reflect on it, I am the person, like if I haven't talked to anybody in a month, I'll be the first and be like, okay. So, is everybody still breathing?  When's the next time we could see each other once. Next time we have a zoom call now. So yeah, I am finding out more stuff about myself.  

Amanda: [00:59:31] For me, same as Justine like the Enneagram.  That one by far the most accurate but also somewhat surprising because when it was talking about the core traits, I was reading into it. And some of those, when you first just see the, just the first word it's like am I? And then you read into it and it's Oh shit. Okay. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Like the whole loyalty one I never really saw myself as the loyal but then I was like, shit, I've been working the same place for like almost. I'd say it to light certain things I didn't necessarily reflect on. So, I think this was a good idea to do. Yeah, it was definitely intriguing to learn. I still don't like the size of that little damn part chart of mine right there.

Justine: [01:00:32] But with my explanation, it makes more sense, but it does make more sense, 

Amanda: [01:00:35] But I just don't like the way it looks. 

Taylor: [01:00:38] She's like it's not aesthetically pleasing. So, does that mean you're going to have more drive now? 

Amanda: [01:00:45] I might have to, now she's going to retake it to figure out the answer and you know what, to be honest in like maybe five, 10 years, I might take these tests again and just be like, did I change? Did I not? Here's hoping I did that a little bit for the better, 

Taylor: [01:01:01] but do you think your results show that you need to improve for the better? Or is this just about saying as a. If it's just a personalities. 

Amanda: [01:01:12] No, just in this, I do want to improve in my assertiveness. I feel like if I want to get farther ahead in my career, I need to be.

Taylor: [01:01:24] We can help you with that. 

Amanda: [01:01:27] More decision-making apparently that's the one I got to do. Oh, man. It makes all the decisions from now on that is a horrible idea.

Taylor: [01:01:39] I was going to say, do you have any since this is also partly your birthday. Do you have any goals in your next decade? 

Amanda: [01:01:45] I hope within the next decade I get that damn CPA license. I want to say that's the goal. That's like literally the only goal I got right now. I want to go back to school to get that certification as a forensic accountant, because that is the future. Okay. In my field at least, those are my goals then the next decade. Here's how it happens. 

Justine: [01:02:11] And you moving out of your parents' house. 

Amanda: [01:02:14] Oh yeah, for sure. That. That will be happening. 

Taylor: [01:02:19] That's not a goal. That's a definite 

Amanda: [01:02:22] no, that's happening. Gots to get out of here. And this episode, I would encourage everyone to go and take these tests. It's the results of very interesting and could bring some insight that you had no idea. We will certainly share the ones we've took the sites we used so you can use them too. There were, and Amanda's tiny pie chart. Yes. Yeah. Will be sharing that little, tiny portrait so everybody can understand what the hell it's all about. 

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